I have a very large "speculation" to present for consideration, or even not. I really just want to get it down. As to the Sign of the Son of Man that will appear in heaven per Matthew 24...
Mat 24:30 and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
And paralleled with Revelation 11...
Rev 11:11 And after the three days and a half the breath of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them that beheld them.
Rev 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they went up into heaven in the cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
and one more...
Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh forth from the east, and is seen even unto the west; so shall be the coming of the Son of man.
Going on the assumption that it will be a visible, supernatural sign in the sky that will somehow validate the Scriptures as true after being put to "death" by the "abomination", I have broadened the search for signs. Throughout the Bible, "signs" come in varying degrees and with different meanings and procedures such as the prophets having to go naked or with yokes on ...etc....or as the plagues in Egypt ( which will be covered by the Vials)....or signs could be symbolized with circumcision or keeping the Sabbath. Needless to say, the spectrum is too wide to narrow down easily.
However, does the "sign of the Son of Man" have to be completely limited to Jesus solely in scripture? What I mean is this, Daniel and Ezekiel were both referred to as "Son of Man" and both witnessed supernatural visions that incorporated seeing "one like a son of man". Ezekiel's however, has always caught my attention for the graphic detail.
Eze 1:1 Now it came to pass in the thirtieth year, in the fourth month, in the fifth day of the month, as I was among the captives by the river Chebar, that the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God.
Eze 1:4 And I looked, and behold, a windstorm came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire flashing itself, and a brightness to it all around. And out of its midst, like the color of polished bronze it came, out of the midst of the fire.
Eze 1:26 And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone; and upon the likeness of the throne was a likeness as the appearance of a man upon it above.
Eze 1:27 And I saw as it were glowing metal, as the appearance of fire within it round about, from the appearance of his loins and upward; and from the appearance of his loins and downward I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and there was brightness round about him.
Eze 1:28 As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of Jehovah. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake.
Eze 2:1 And he said unto me, Son of man, stand upon thy feet, and I will speak with thee.
The descriptions go on and on. This last part also is very similar to the account with the Witnesses---command to stand up.
It has truly befuddled me to fathom anything that could be constituted a sign in the literal sky that would validate scripture...rainbows are too common and windstorms are also commonplace. It also, based on Matt. 24:27 has to be something that will be easily seen at great distances or at least can venture around as to be seen. If the sign of the "Son of Man" known as Ezekiel that introduces the coming of the Son of Man--Jesus Christ, is something like the sight he saw involving the cherubim, then the only place a world could go to for an identical descriptive account would be the now "dead" Bible, which in turn, would validate it to millions I would suppose.
However; and I'm waiting for an updated timeline from David on the thoughts of separating the advent of the "sign" and the onset of the seventh trumpet, the sign itself( if it is something like described) will be disputed worldwide to anyone other than professed Christians, to be anything other than what it is--the sign of the (Christian) Son of Man. Scientists and philosophers will deem it extra-terrestrial or other religions will claim it as one of their own gods and subsequently religious tension like never before could preface and cause the attacks that make up the Seven Vials. Christians worldwide, especially in Western Civilization will mourn and beat themselves in expectation at having put aside their Christianity and even participating in the betrayals of their loved ones in the Tribulation.
Unfortunately, humans have a tendency to overdo just about everything and I imagine if things played out as such, that the new-found Christians in political power, with the support of millions of "limited-knowledge" Christians will over-zealously and unnecessarily protect their God and his reputation, thus aiding in the gathering to Armegeddon.
Again, COMPLETE SPECULATION bordering on the fictitious. I just have to have options in my own mind. I also acknowledge that it could be nothing like this and end up being more mundane or even more fantastical.
Chris
Mat 24:30 and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
And paralleled with Revelation 11...
Rev 11:11 And after the three days and a half the breath of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them that beheld them.
Rev 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they went up into heaven in the cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
and one more...
Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh forth from the east, and is seen even unto the west; so shall be the coming of the Son of man.
Going on the assumption that it will be a visible, supernatural sign in the sky that will somehow validate the Scriptures as true after being put to "death" by the "abomination", I have broadened the search for signs. Throughout the Bible, "signs" come in varying degrees and with different meanings and procedures such as the prophets having to go naked or with yokes on ...etc....or as the plagues in Egypt ( which will be covered by the Vials)....or signs could be symbolized with circumcision or keeping the Sabbath. Needless to say, the spectrum is too wide to narrow down easily.
However, does the "sign of the Son of Man" have to be completely limited to Jesus solely in scripture? What I mean is this, Daniel and Ezekiel were both referred to as "Son of Man" and both witnessed supernatural visions that incorporated seeing "one like a son of man". Ezekiel's however, has always caught my attention for the graphic detail.
Eze 1:1 Now it came to pass in the thirtieth year, in the fourth month, in the fifth day of the month, as I was among the captives by the river Chebar, that the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God.
Eze 1:4 And I looked, and behold, a windstorm came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire flashing itself, and a brightness to it all around. And out of its midst, like the color of polished bronze it came, out of the midst of the fire.
Eze 1:26 And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone; and upon the likeness of the throne was a likeness as the appearance of a man upon it above.
Eze 1:27 And I saw as it were glowing metal, as the appearance of fire within it round about, from the appearance of his loins and upward; and from the appearance of his loins and downward I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and there was brightness round about him.
Eze 1:28 As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of Jehovah. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake.
Eze 2:1 And he said unto me, Son of man, stand upon thy feet, and I will speak with thee.
The descriptions go on and on. This last part also is very similar to the account with the Witnesses---command to stand up.
It has truly befuddled me to fathom anything that could be constituted a sign in the literal sky that would validate scripture...rainbows are too common and windstorms are also commonplace. It also, based on Matt. 24:27 has to be something that will be easily seen at great distances or at least can venture around as to be seen. If the sign of the "Son of Man" known as Ezekiel that introduces the coming of the Son of Man--Jesus Christ, is something like the sight he saw involving the cherubim, then the only place a world could go to for an identical descriptive account would be the now "dead" Bible, which in turn, would validate it to millions I would suppose.
However; and I'm waiting for an updated timeline from David on the thoughts of separating the advent of the "sign" and the onset of the seventh trumpet, the sign itself( if it is something like described) will be disputed worldwide to anyone other than professed Christians, to be anything other than what it is--the sign of the (Christian) Son of Man. Scientists and philosophers will deem it extra-terrestrial or other religions will claim it as one of their own gods and subsequently religious tension like never before could preface and cause the attacks that make up the Seven Vials. Christians worldwide, especially in Western Civilization will mourn and beat themselves in expectation at having put aside their Christianity and even participating in the betrayals of their loved ones in the Tribulation.
Unfortunately, humans have a tendency to overdo just about everything and I imagine if things played out as such, that the new-found Christians in political power, with the support of millions of "limited-knowledge" Christians will over-zealously and unnecessarily protect their God and his reputation, thus aiding in the gathering to Armegeddon.
Again, COMPLETE SPECULATION bordering on the fictitious. I just have to have options in my own mind. I also acknowledge that it could be nothing like this and end up being more mundane or even more fantastical.
Chris
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