Matthew 24
Maybe this one is a little better. In case you guys happened to not read the original one, the premise is to get to a discussion of the Great Tribulation, but with regards to the whole of Matthew 24 and the possible parallel applications to 70 ad as well as the history between 70 ad and/through present day.
Mat 24:1 And Jesus went out from the temple, and was going on his way; and his disciples came to him to show him the buildings of the temple.
Mat 24:2 But he answered and said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
Mat 24:3 And as he sat on the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man lead you astray.
Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am the Christ; and shall lead many astray.
I think it safe to say that all false teaching can find its way back to Gnostics as they were the first to claim a more specific message from Christ. Their false teachings (even though deemed heretical) are the basis for much of the Catholic teachings which even the Reformers did not eradicate. A more accurate application would be to the Man of Sin, however.
Mat 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumors of wars; see that ye be not troubled: for these things must needs come to pass; but the end is not yet.
Mat 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; and there shall be famines and earthquakes in divers places.
One view is the situation preceding the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD, but, a broader application to the six trumpets of Revelation seems prudent.Mat 24:8 But all these things are the beginning of travail.
The use of the word "travail" here ( as in birthpang) to me, supports the fact of repititious fulfillment of certain prophetic elements.
Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up unto tribulation, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all the nations for my name's sake.
These verses seem to apply to the persecutions of the Christians by Romans as well as later by the "man of sin". It is easy to apply these to the Great Tribulation, but, as we see, there are other events that precede the GT.
Mat 24:10 And then shall many stumble, and shall deliver up one another, and shall hate one another.
Could apply to the Great Apostasy of the Dark Ages with present day ramifications.
Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall arise, and shall lead many astray.
The Man of sin is one false prophet, but, the divisions of Protestantism alone, as well as the rise of Islam could be represented here. I would not discount a point at the False Prophet of Revelation.
Mat 24:12 And because iniquity shall be multiplied, the love of the many shall wax cold.
Obviously, a present day observation.Mat 24:13 But he that endureth to the end, the same shall be saved.
Dan 12:11 And from the time that the continual burnt-offering shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand and two hundred and ninety days.
Dan 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
An application with the verses from Daniel place the timeline squarely in the time immediately preceding and into the "coming of the Son of Man".
Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world for a testimony unto all the nations; and then shall the end come.
I feel this applies to the 1000yr reign itself and BEYOND. Since this verse wraps up the timeline of events, Jesus then specifies what will be the end of the Jewish dispensation (70 A. D.) , but, more importantly the end of the current dispensation..
Mat 24:15 When therefore ye see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let him that readeth understand),
An open invitation by God to those at the "endtimes" to apply these warnings to themselves and not solely to the events of 70 AD as will be shown. Mat 24:16 then let them that are in Judaea flee unto the mountains:
Mat 24:17 let him that is on the housetop not go down to take out things that are in his house:
Mat 24:18 and let him that is in the field not return back to take his cloak.
Mat 24:19 But woe unto them that are with child and to them that give suck in those days!
Mat 24:20 And pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on a sabbath:
Mat 24:21 for then shall be great tribulation, such as hath not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever shall be.
The "tribulations" against God's people have all had a common violent theme with obvious persecutions, but, what if the "hath not been from the beginning of the world until now" means that this pattern will be different than all others in that a more crafty seductive attack on the Christian lifestyle and value that corresponds with the war on the Two Witnesses, which would also make these warnings all the more applicable in our time.Mat 24:22 And except those days had been shortened, no flesh would have been saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Firstly, trials and tribulations have always been around God's people and the fact that he here speaks of the tribulation actually coming to a halt lest noone be saved, puts this specified tribulation period at the end. Secondly, comparing the "lukewarmness" of the age and the possibility that this is a more spiritual tribulation, all we have to do is look at the world we live in to see how very ineffective "Christianity" is becoming, thus, if not for the very elect, no one could be "saved".
Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is the Christ, or, Here; believe it not.
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
This "signs and wonders of false prophets" seems to me to point directly of the False Prophet who doth signs and wonders of Revelation, so yet another reference to this present time period. The system promoted by the present day False Prophet makes it easier to understand how living in this day and age with all the temptation and self-living as well as the blatant promotion of alternate religions and lifestyles could even lead the elect astray.
Mat 24:25 Behold, I have told you beforehand.
Mat 24:26 If therefore they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the wilderness; go not forth: Behold, he is in the inner chambers; believe it not.
Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh forth from the east, and is seen even unto the west; so shall be the coming of the Son of man.
Mat 24:28 Wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
Mat 24:29 But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: Religion will be darkened. Compare events of Revelation 11.
Mat 24:30 and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Again Rev. 10&11.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send forth his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. @ Day 1290-1?
Mat 24:32 Now from the fig tree learn her parable: when her branch is now become tender, and putteth forth its leaves, ye know that the summer is nigh;
Mat 24:33 even so ye also, when ye see all these things, know ye that he is nigh, even at the doors.
Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all these things be accomplished.
Mat 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only.
Mat 24:37 And as were the days of Noah, so shall be the coming of the Son of man.
Mat 24:38 For as in those days which were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,
Mat 24:39 and they knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall be the coming of the Son of man.
The fact that the COMING of the Son of Man is what takes everyone by surprise as well as that his coming doesn't take place until the period of the vials may support the fact that the Great Tribulation also is not easily recognized to any who aren't diligently watching. When he comes, will he even find faith?Mat 24:40 Then shall two man be in the field; one is taken, and one is left:
Mat 24:41 two women shall be grinding at the mill; one is taken, and one is left.
Mat 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not on what day your Lord cometh.
Mat 24:43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what watch the thief was coming, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken through.
Mat 24:44 Therefore be ye also ready; for in an hour that ye think not the Son of man cometh.
Mat 24:45 Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath set over his household, to give them their food in due season?
Mat 24:46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
Blessed is he who is found watching for his master to COME.
Mat 24:47 Verily I say unto you, that he will set him over all that he hath.
Mat 24:48 But if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord tarrieth;
Mat 24:49 and shall begin to beat his fellow-servants, and shall eat and drink with the drunken;
Mat 24:50 the lord of that servant shall come in a day when he expecteth not, and in an hour when he knoweth not,
Mat 24:51 and shall cut him asunder, and appoint his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth.
The weeping/gnashing of teeth is correspondent with the vials, so wouldn't someone with the opportunity to be a faithful slave recognize a violent, outward persecution of Christians that preceded the vials? This is why I have the notion that the Great Tribulation may be a more spiritual event though there will be an obvious marker in the abomination of desolation/mark of the beast to those seeking and watching. This marker will identify the 1260 days of the Great Tribulation of the likes we have never seen that will nullify the power of the holy ones.
Chris
Maybe this one is a little better. In case you guys happened to not read the original one, the premise is to get to a discussion of the Great Tribulation, but with regards to the whole of Matthew 24 and the possible parallel applications to 70 ad as well as the history between 70 ad and/through present day.
Mat 24:1 And Jesus went out from the temple, and was going on his way; and his disciples came to him to show him the buildings of the temple.
Mat 24:2 But he answered and said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
Mat 24:3 And as he sat on the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man lead you astray.
Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am the Christ; and shall lead many astray.
I think it safe to say that all false teaching can find its way back to Gnostics as they were the first to claim a more specific message from Christ. Their false teachings (even though deemed heretical) are the basis for much of the Catholic teachings which even the Reformers did not eradicate. A more accurate application would be to the Man of Sin, however.
Mat 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumors of wars; see that ye be not troubled: for these things must needs come to pass; but the end is not yet.
Mat 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; and there shall be famines and earthquakes in divers places.
One view is the situation preceding the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD, but, a broader application to the six trumpets of Revelation seems prudent.Mat 24:8 But all these things are the beginning of travail.
The use of the word "travail" here ( as in birthpang) to me, supports the fact of repititious fulfillment of certain prophetic elements.
Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up unto tribulation, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all the nations for my name's sake.
These verses seem to apply to the persecutions of the Christians by Romans as well as later by the "man of sin". It is easy to apply these to the Great Tribulation, but, as we see, there are other events that precede the GT.
Mat 24:10 And then shall many stumble, and shall deliver up one another, and shall hate one another.
Could apply to the Great Apostasy of the Dark Ages with present day ramifications.
Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall arise, and shall lead many astray.
The Man of sin is one false prophet, but, the divisions of Protestantism alone, as well as the rise of Islam could be represented here. I would not discount a point at the False Prophet of Revelation.
Mat 24:12 And because iniquity shall be multiplied, the love of the many shall wax cold.
Obviously, a present day observation.Mat 24:13 But he that endureth to the end, the same shall be saved.
Dan 12:11 And from the time that the continual burnt-offering shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand and two hundred and ninety days.
Dan 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
An application with the verses from Daniel place the timeline squarely in the time immediately preceding and into the "coming of the Son of Man".
Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world for a testimony unto all the nations; and then shall the end come.
I feel this applies to the 1000yr reign itself and BEYOND. Since this verse wraps up the timeline of events, Jesus then specifies what will be the end of the Jewish dispensation (70 A. D.) , but, more importantly the end of the current dispensation..
Mat 24:15 When therefore ye see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let him that readeth understand),
An open invitation by God to those at the "endtimes" to apply these warnings to themselves and not solely to the events of 70 AD as will be shown. Mat 24:16 then let them that are in Judaea flee unto the mountains:
Mat 24:17 let him that is on the housetop not go down to take out things that are in his house:
Mat 24:18 and let him that is in the field not return back to take his cloak.
Mat 24:19 But woe unto them that are with child and to them that give suck in those days!
Mat 24:20 And pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on a sabbath:
Mat 24:21 for then shall be great tribulation, such as hath not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever shall be.
The "tribulations" against God's people have all had a common violent theme with obvious persecutions, but, what if the "hath not been from the beginning of the world until now" means that this pattern will be different than all others in that a more crafty seductive attack on the Christian lifestyle and value that corresponds with the war on the Two Witnesses, which would also make these warnings all the more applicable in our time.Mat 24:22 And except those days had been shortened, no flesh would have been saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Firstly, trials and tribulations have always been around God's people and the fact that he here speaks of the tribulation actually coming to a halt lest noone be saved, puts this specified tribulation period at the end. Secondly, comparing the "lukewarmness" of the age and the possibility that this is a more spiritual tribulation, all we have to do is look at the world we live in to see how very ineffective "Christianity" is becoming, thus, if not for the very elect, no one could be "saved".
Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is the Christ, or, Here; believe it not.
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
This "signs and wonders of false prophets" seems to me to point directly of the False Prophet who doth signs and wonders of Revelation, so yet another reference to this present time period. The system promoted by the present day False Prophet makes it easier to understand how living in this day and age with all the temptation and self-living as well as the blatant promotion of alternate religions and lifestyles could even lead the elect astray.
Mat 24:25 Behold, I have told you beforehand.
Mat 24:26 If therefore they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the wilderness; go not forth: Behold, he is in the inner chambers; believe it not.
Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh forth from the east, and is seen even unto the west; so shall be the coming of the Son of man.
Mat 24:28 Wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
Mat 24:29 But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: Religion will be darkened. Compare events of Revelation 11.
Mat 24:30 and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Again Rev. 10&11.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send forth his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. @ Day 1290-1?
Mat 24:32 Now from the fig tree learn her parable: when her branch is now become tender, and putteth forth its leaves, ye know that the summer is nigh;
Mat 24:33 even so ye also, when ye see all these things, know ye that he is nigh, even at the doors.
Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all these things be accomplished.
Mat 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only.
Mat 24:37 And as were the days of Noah, so shall be the coming of the Son of man.
Mat 24:38 For as in those days which were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,
Mat 24:39 and they knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall be the coming of the Son of man.
The fact that the COMING of the Son of Man is what takes everyone by surprise as well as that his coming doesn't take place until the period of the vials may support the fact that the Great Tribulation also is not easily recognized to any who aren't diligently watching. When he comes, will he even find faith?Mat 24:40 Then shall two man be in the field; one is taken, and one is left:
Mat 24:41 two women shall be grinding at the mill; one is taken, and one is left.
Mat 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not on what day your Lord cometh.
Mat 24:43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what watch the thief was coming, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken through.
Mat 24:44 Therefore be ye also ready; for in an hour that ye think not the Son of man cometh.
Mat 24:45 Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath set over his household, to give them their food in due season?
Mat 24:46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
Blessed is he who is found watching for his master to COME.
Mat 24:47 Verily I say unto you, that he will set him over all that he hath.
Mat 24:48 But if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord tarrieth;
Mat 24:49 and shall begin to beat his fellow-servants, and shall eat and drink with the drunken;
Mat 24:50 the lord of that servant shall come in a day when he expecteth not, and in an hour when he knoweth not,
Mat 24:51 and shall cut him asunder, and appoint his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth.
The weeping/gnashing of teeth is correspondent with the vials, so wouldn't someone with the opportunity to be a faithful slave recognize a violent, outward persecution of Christians that preceded the vials? This is why I have the notion that the Great Tribulation may be a more spiritual event though there will be an obvious marker in the abomination of desolation/mark of the beast to those seeking and watching. This marker will identify the 1260 days of the Great Tribulation of the likes we have never seen that will nullify the power of the holy ones.
Chris
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