MORE LAKE OF FIRE THOUGHTS
Hi Chris,
Well my problem is, that it seems to me that such a scenario would put Satan in the 'lake of fire' for the 1000 years... it would put him 'where the beast and false prophet are', but according to Revelation he doesn't go there until after the 1000 years. Unless of course this simply means that his judgment is not executed fully until after the Battle of Gog and Magog.
There are a couple problems with this line of thought which I'll admit, but I'm not ready to give up on it just yet. Under the 1000 years it appears that the laws of the kingdom will be enforced upon the nations in the strictest way. He weill 'dash them to pieces' so to speak. Jesus' warnings about Gehenna were very real, and in the Kingdom capital punishment will be carried out:
And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.
(Isa 66:24)
Jesus asked the Pharisees how it would be possible for them to escape this judgment. However, the verses in my earlier post also show that the punishment will fit the crime. I really shouldn't use the word 'punishment'... these are of course 'corrective' in nature. Anyway, it seems logical to me that there would be a lnad or lands to which some were banished for a season.
Now regarding Satan and the Demons. If we take this in a literal way, then a physical land is really no prison to a spirit being. I find it difficult to imagine that we are to understand the passage in that way. However we do know in the past that God cast some of the angels that sinned into 'Tartarus' for the specific purpose of holding them there until their time of judgment. The language concerning Satan COULD just mean that he is confined there too during the 1000 years. I do not want to force the language. However (famous last words)...
And it shall come to pass in that day, [that] the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones [that are] on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth. And they shall be gathered together, [as] prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.
(Isa 24:21-22)
Could the binding of Satan mean more? As you said, in a figurative way Satan represents secular authority/government. The verse above says that both the 'high ones on high' and the Kings of the earth are to be gathered to a pit. A have to wonder if this verse is the actual cross reference to Revelation. Perhaps it just means that the secular authority is surpressed by holding all those leaders who deceived the nations in the grave until the 1000 years are finished, and not allowing Satan any influence of the affairs of nations in the Kingdom.
I will more to say about Gog and Magog later...
--David
Hi Chris,
Well my problem is, that it seems to me that such a scenario would put Satan in the 'lake of fire' for the 1000 years... it would put him 'where the beast and false prophet are', but according to Revelation he doesn't go there until after the 1000 years. Unless of course this simply means that his judgment is not executed fully until after the Battle of Gog and Magog.
There are a couple problems with this line of thought which I'll admit, but I'm not ready to give up on it just yet. Under the 1000 years it appears that the laws of the kingdom will be enforced upon the nations in the strictest way. He weill 'dash them to pieces' so to speak. Jesus' warnings about Gehenna were very real, and in the Kingdom capital punishment will be carried out:
And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.
(Isa 66:24)
Jesus asked the Pharisees how it would be possible for them to escape this judgment. However, the verses in my earlier post also show that the punishment will fit the crime. I really shouldn't use the word 'punishment'... these are of course 'corrective' in nature. Anyway, it seems logical to me that there would be a lnad or lands to which some were banished for a season.
Now regarding Satan and the Demons. If we take this in a literal way, then a physical land is really no prison to a spirit being. I find it difficult to imagine that we are to understand the passage in that way. However we do know in the past that God cast some of the angels that sinned into 'Tartarus' for the specific purpose of holding them there until their time of judgment. The language concerning Satan COULD just mean that he is confined there too during the 1000 years. I do not want to force the language. However (famous last words)...
And it shall come to pass in that day, [that] the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones [that are] on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth. And they shall be gathered together, [as] prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.
(Isa 24:21-22)
Could the binding of Satan mean more? As you said, in a figurative way Satan represents secular authority/government. The verse above says that both the 'high ones on high' and the Kings of the earth are to be gathered to a pit. A have to wonder if this verse is the actual cross reference to Revelation. Perhaps it just means that the secular authority is surpressed by holding all those leaders who deceived the nations in the grave until the 1000 years are finished, and not allowing Satan any influence of the affairs of nations in the Kingdom.
I will more to say about Gog and Magog later...
--David
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